Navy SEAL Would Like Dick Cheney to Confess to Murder

"You give me a waterboard, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders."

So says Navy SEAL, professional wrestling entertainer, star of "Predator" and former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura in an interview with Larry King. Ventura claims that waterboarding is torture, based on the waterboarding he endured during SEAL training.

He also says some negative things about former President George W. Bush. Watch the entire clip at CNN (via The Awl).

Comments

[#126 Posted by: RARTWO]

"Attack the message, not the messenger"
Lots of solid opinions here on this blog. Conversely, some are wild and so far out that we may want to trace them and check the water supplies in those neighborhoods for dangerous chemicals...
For the Minnesotans and his Green (Frogs and SEAL) Brethren from NSW who know him or paid attention since his early years as a local gym owner and wrestling 'showman', he is much the same. How he became governor was understood by the people who voted back then. If you were not one of them, you may not get it. If you have never been a UDT man or SEAL, you may not understand the wrap to all of that either. As in most things - when you don't really know what you are talking about, you only discredit yourself when you try to act as an authority to it.
'Ken Sparrow' and 'Ray' are closer to the truth than most, but are still not without flaw. Jesse Ventura (formerly Jim Janos) was a UDT Man. He volunteered to serve his country and deployed for combat duty in the front lines of an extremely dangerous and controversial war during a time that many went to great lengths to avoid when called upon by law. What he and his mates did when they arrived was directed and limited by higher authority. Does he wish today that he had done more back then? Perhaps… as is common to most, except those who truly were ‘knee deep in hand grenade pins’.
I personally served as an active duty operational SEAL for 24 years, yet it is not my place to judge him for whether or not he wanted to bump up to become a SEAL upon completion of his initial assignment to UDT...after all, who better than he would know where he belonged and was committed to? Far be it from me to say that everyone who volunteers needs to serve more than one hitch or as a careerist to be valid. Although I know him personally, and I have spoke to several who served with him, I have not looked at his records and do not know if he was ordered to attend SERE, as UDT was often not. If he did, he may or may not have been directed to participate in the water boarding practical. In truth, only a few of each SERE class were subject to the WB.
Jesse/Jim may be BSing us all as he did when he was attired in the wrestling tights w/ the pink boa, bleach blonde locks and black beret. He is, after all, a showman. When you see a clown at a kid’s party, do you run up and tell him to stop being a clown? What about Santa at the mall? As Governor of Minnesota, he reminded us that you don’t have to be a politician to be in politics. Isn’t that the original thought that has somehow been lost? Let your wisdom be your guide and accept him for his good and his shortcomings. Who is more of a Fool – the Fool, or the one who is fooled by the Fool time after time? Sure, I wish that he was more honest…just like I wished that the tooth fairy would leave more than a dime and the Govt. would charge fewer taxes.

[#127 Posted by: Rome]

Ventura says it like it is. Waterboarding is torture. All of you hacks who are critical of him love war but would never enlist. George Bush Jr. is the worst president ever and everyone in his administration should be in jail

[#128 Posted by: Mike S]

Ventura has a lot of courage to come out and say this. I am shocked at how many people still support what Bush/Cheyney did, do you people read books??? In my opinion the whole Bush Administration is a bunch of criminals and the world is much worse off for them. I only wish Ron Paul had a chance of being elected, Obama isn't going to change anything significant.

[#129 Posted by: Dave]

Cheney is a traitor in principal who worked for British financial interests while in office. Cheney was head of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and hid that fact from his constitutes during reelection (he admits this in his speech to the CFR - clip is on youtube.com.

Research the CFR - their mandate is to bring an end to the US Constitution and US Supreme Court being the highest law in the US and permit the U.N. Charter of Rights to overrule the U.S. Constitution!

Ventura is not left wing at all – he is a Constitutionalist. He believes in the rule of law and that the sole purpose of the government is to uphold the rights of the individual as guaranteed in the Constitution, the Bill of Rights and the Deceleration of Independence. Ventura was one of the first people to speak against Obama and expose him for being a liar.

Visit www.prisionplanet.tv and www.infowars.com to see the many interviews of Ventura where he speaks the truth.

Visit www.larouchepac.com to see the many, many articles exposing Dick Chaney, George Bush, Obama, Larry Summer’s, Al Gore, etc. for being the criminals they truly are.

I wish we had your Constitution, your Bill of Rights and your Deceleration of Independence, your 1st and 2nd Amendment rights here in Canada where we have to live under the jackboot tyranny of the Parliamentary system and the living nightmare of Fabian Socialism that literally castrates males and has destroyed the family unit.

Dave
Ottawa, Canada

[#130 Posted by: CAFR1]

The Military is designed for one thing: Kill, Kill, Kill at the direction of politicians sitting in back rooms behind closed doors who most have spent their lives turning spin, learning how to steal money from the people and who 90% have never worn the uniform of the military they direct to Kill, Kill, Kill. If you are a good little soldier, you never question what you are told to do. You are trained not to. You are trained not to question. You are trained to Ra - Ra - Ra as whomever the target of your directed assigned aggressions are terminated through extreme prejudice. Additionally you are trained to in public forum treat the the people who are not armed and have the appearance of not fighting your aggression in their country as poor little victims of a hostile foe that just happens to be their brothers, sisters, fathers, and mothers. Have another candy bar little child, we will eradicate those terrorists and soon you can be safe and secure like us. To step outside of the drone mentality with TRUE thinking and objectively overriding the soundbite intense conditioning you are fed each and ever day to inflate the dominate male ego to Kill, Kill, Kill on cue without hesitation is a very hard thing to do. In doing so first it leaves you wide open for attack by the front-line drones parroting what they have bee trained and well paid for to think. Second it makes you the target of those from the political arena thathave masterfully orchestrated the death of millions for their profit of billions of dollars. These individuals are criminals. Drones can not step forward like Mr. Jesse Ventura has. This is the mark of a true fighter of independence and genuine spirit. " In the beginning of a change, the Patriot is a scarce man, and brave and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs them nothing to be a Patriot..-Mark Twain" additionally "He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." + "The duty of a patriot is to protect his country from its government." + "Let them call me rebel and welcome, for I should suffer the miseries of devils if I make a whore of my soul." and last but not least per drones: "Attempting to debate with a person who has abandoned reason is like giving medicine to the dead." - Thomas Paine --- Many of us are and all of us should be very proud of Mr. Ventura, he has done what the drones could not by drawing the line in the sand for "We the People" of the United States of America as the drones continue to parrot the cues of their trainers.

[#131 Posted by: Gern]

Dont they brain wash all you military meatheads when you join ?

[#132 Posted by: Hereward]

It's obvious the point that Ventura is making is that you can get anybody to say anything with waterboarding, so that the procedure is basically useless.
By the way, the 'left' and the 'right' in this country are just sock puppets. Think for yourself, if your brain is up to it.

[#133 Posted by: CAFR1]

PS: Mr. Ventura says: ""You give me a waterboard, Dick Cheney and one hour, and I'll have him confess to the Sharon Tate murders." Here I think Mr. Ventura is boasting and out right WRONG and possibly delusional! Cheney is a seasoned corporate player, it would take at least two hours.

[#134 Posted by: Richard]

If we believe the Bush Admn. and VP Cheney need to be charged for torture to save lives then I suppose we need to charge President Obama and his admn. with premeditated 1st degree murder. Will someone tell me the difference between torture to save lives and ordering 3 terriorist killed to save lives.

[#135 Posted by: Richard]

If we believe the Bush Admn. and VP Cheney need to be charged for torture to save lives, then I suppose we need to charge President Obama and his admn. with premeditated 1st degree murder. Will someone tell me the difference between torture to save lives or ordering 3 terrorist killed to save a life.

[#136 Posted by: Richard]

If we want President Bush's admn. and VP Cheney (what ever is recommended) charged with torture, then shouldn't we also charge President Obama and his admn. with premeditated 1st degree murder. If not, can someone tell me the difference.

[#137 Posted by: Richard]

If we want to charge President Bush and VP Cheney for torture (to save lives), then don't you think we need to charge President Obama with premeditated 1st degree murder, the 3 pirates (to save a life). If not, can someone explain to me the difference.

[#138 Posted by: Wally]

I'd follow Ventura into battle or the polls. He knows what he's talking about. You armchair Rambos are cought up in the false left/right paradigm and you are the dweebs. Sit back and let the pro's do the thinking here. Ventura is correct in his assessments and I back him 100 percent. Cheney is GUILTY of treason just like Jr Booshe. Of course, that's just for starters. Rice, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft, Powell, both Clintons, and the list of TRAITORS is so long that I cannot remember all the names. Ventura is acting like he's got a pair, I suggest you detractors do the same. Wally

[#139 Posted by: Aaron]

Torture is illegal. What part of that don't you people understand. The Geneva Convention, the Nuremberg Accord, the US Constitution, to name a few, make it explicitly illegal. To do anything else is to justify breaking the law, and ignoring our Constitution that states quite clearly, "Any treaty that the United States signs is to be treated as the supreme law of the land". That makes you right wing apologists the traitors to America, not the other way around. Adhering to the rule of law, and upholding the ideals of America are the actions of a patriot, not defaming people for not worshiping at the altar of Republicanism. I would say shame on you, but it is painfully obvious from these posts that you are incapable of shame. Jesse is right in what he said, and I stand by him. Dick Cheney is a war criminal and should be tried in the Hague.

[#140 Posted by: Patriot]

About time this true Patriot tells it like it is. Cheney is a criminal and should be treated as such. Ventura knows the truths about 9/11 and who was really behind this false flag terror event leading to us occupying another Country. Read his book for the real truths. Don't start the Revolution without me.

[#141 Posted by: Bob Bobber]

Let's see...
Has any foreign government agent ever tortured an American? It's time that the US takes names and kicks ass again. Ventura for president.

[#142 Posted by: Tony]

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above sites will clear many things.

Shalom

[#143 Posted by: American]

Do ANY of you realize that the problems our nation faces are not right vs. left, pinko vs. butch, or any of the other dividing crap you seem to fling around, like monkeys at the zoo throwing their poo, but that BOTH of the political parties we have inherited are to blame.

There has been so much lying by previous incarnations of our government that you simpletons can't see the forest through the trees.

The fact is there are NO law enforcement agencies left with balls to go after ALL the criminals- republican or democratic. And you buffoons want to call someone a pussy, or traitor, or whatever, and you brain dead pricks keep making sure it goes on and on by remaining divided and conquered. You'd think some of you military folks, active, retired, etc. would see THAT 800 lb. gorilla sitting smack in the middle of the living room. Obviously you are only good at obeying orders, regardless of whether it is legal or illegal, right or wrong.

The 'civilian' chain of command is a corrupt, criminal organization, and you just keep blindly following it....

[#144 Posted by: Felix Mendoza]

They are waiting for us to tear each other apart from the inside and when we are weak enough they will come for us. Everyone of you is too busy with your own selfish agendas, in the meanwhile the jackals are circling. True patriotism is lost to us.

[#145 Posted by: Doug]

Cheney is a treasonous terrorist. Someone should put a bullet into the back of his skull.

[#146 Posted by: silas]

So wait whats worse water boarding or being photographed naked. I think if i had a choice i go with the photograph everytime i guess if you choose that route you get justice. Seriously if a soldier mistreats a prisoner, its jail time but if you torture them AHA it okay because you were trying to get information. Give me a break!!!

[#147 Posted by: Bill Steen]

I'm not sure why Mr. "The Body" is running his mouth. Yes SEAL trainng is tough and survivor ,evasion and escape training is tough espically when you are caught. THe water boarding lead to actual inteligance that worked and proved usefull. What would he have stated if some of his fellow Minnesotians werer killed by actions that were not stopped due to lack of intel. There are certian lines that we should not cross as Americans but this was not one of them. I too have have had the craped knocked out of me training and had water hoses shoved in my mouth and down my back. Big deal. I am standing here a better man. Also I am not out blowing up innocent civilians.

[#148 Posted by: jackal]

cheney is an autocratic hack and california has certainly corrupted ventura's ethics. its easy for anyone who's never been shot at to criticize warfare and the manner in which we wage it. but, it is our duty to uphold the liberties that are provided by our constitution. then again, our constitution only applies to americans. after what i've experienced all i can say is, kill 'em all; let god sort 'em out.

[#149 Posted by: jackal]

cheney is an autocratic hack and california has certainly corrupted ventura's ethics. its easy for anyone who's never been shot at to criticize warfare and the manner in which we wage it. but, it is our duty to uphold the liberties that are provided by our constitution. then again, our constitution only applies to americans. after what i've experienced all i can say is, kill 'em all; let god sort 'em out.

[#150 Posted by: jackal]

cheney is an autocratic hack and california has certainly corrupted ventura's ethics. its easy for anyone who's never been shot at to criticize warfare and the manner in which we wage it. but, it is our duty to uphold the liberties that are provided by our constitution. then again, our constitution only applies to americans. after what i've experienced all i have to say is, kill 'em all; let god sort 'em out.